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Perma Roof

Postby Melitta » Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:53 pm

Has anyone had a Perma Roof from Southern Builders put on their mobile home? If so, are you happy with it and was it worth the cost?
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RE: Perma Roof

Postby Yanita » Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:25 pm

Hi, and welcome to the site.

We consider JD our roof specialist around here.

Will alert him of your post.

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RE: Perma Roof

Postby JD » Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:29 pm

Hi Melitta,

When you get a quote on the Perma-Roof, would you mine sharing that information with the forum? I am very interested in the price from a professional standpoint. Looking at the information on the web site. it does look like a good concept. I found the information here.

http://www.roofover.com/roofover_advantages.html

I would have a couple of questions about their roof system.

They say that the roof is attached to the home with a perimeter bracket that attaches to the roof line of the mobile home. From the drawings, I would have to assume that the steel panels are screwed to this perimeter bracket. How do they insure these screws won't leak? Also, are there fasteners only at the top and bottom of the steel panels? What holds the panels down in the middle if there is serious wind? Is there some type of locking cleat? I am thinking they have a good answer, but would be curious as to what that is. They talk about the 800-1000 pounds of steel not lifting, but that weight alone would not stop a serious wind from trying to lift the panels. Also, that is not a lot of weight for a second roof. It must be less and a pound per foot, judging by their information.

I would also ask them about the 12" overhang on the eaves. It looks like it is just the 26 or 29 gauge steel making the overhang. Would it be safe to stand on top of that 12" ?

Any information you could relay back to us would be greatly appreciated.

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RE: Perma Roof

Postby Yanita » Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:53 pm

HI,

Would just like to add that Mark has an article about an inexpensive metal roof over. Click the article link above, scroll down, its like the 10th article on the left...

This is also covered in the manual that can be located in the books parts link.

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RE: Perma Roof

Postby Linda » Sat Jul 21, 2007 3:26 am

For a 28 X 55 is $5895 for 29 gauge and 2" foam or $6225 for 3" foam. We just checked into this but did not do it. Have all the info but not at hands reach will find it tomorrow and let you know what it says. I just order info and did not talk to anybody but my husband asked the same question about the overhang. He used to roof 25 or 30 years ago.

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RE: Perma Roof

Postby Melitta » Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:49 am

Our price is $5100 for an 18x76 for 3" insulation. We are getting 3" for the price of 2". It is 29 gauge steel in white. You can not walk on the overhang. Our home is a 1993 Fleetwood from Palm Harbor. We really haven't had any problems with the roof we have on now. The new roof is more for having the overhang and the added insulation. We have VERY hot summers here in Texas and need some type of shading on our walls, not too mention that in hard rain (which we have had a lot of this season) the water is running straight down our walls and causing water damage. When I posted the question about Perma Roof, we had already contacted them and signed a sheet acknowledging the price and all. They were suppose to call back on Thursday, but haven't heard from them. My parents had them do their roof and it has held up very well so far. Has made a big difference in the cooling of the home also. This was a couple of years ago, and I don't remember them having such a hard time getting them to set an appointment to do the roof. Now, I wish that I had checked out this site before signing the paper. My husband says without a doubt we could go by Mark's book and do it ourselves. Plus, with the money we would save, we could also repair the siding that has water damage. I am bummed. :( I need to take a closer look at the paper I signed, don't remember seeing anything on it that locked us in a contract to have the work done. Wonder how long it would take for Mark's book to get here....
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RE: Perma Roof

Postby JD » Sat Jul 21, 2007 11:10 am

If the Perma Roof people did not use a contract that is legal in your area, you do not have a binding contract. Here in California there is a list of consumer protection wording that must be written on every contract. 3 day right of cancellation, address and phone number of the contractor's license board, details about liens, bonds, insurance etc, a start date of the job, payment details, and other stuff.

I would still be interested in how they fasten down the middle of the steel panels if anyone knows. But again, barring some unknown details, it looks like a good roof and the price seems to be about what contractors would charge in my area.

Here in California they pretty much banned any roof that had overhangs that would not support the weight of a worker. Code may be different in your area. But the overhang may be the best feature of this or any roof. You could cool and protect your home even more with a properly built awning running full length down both sides of the home. Properly built would take into account snow loads, wind and footings. Again, we are not frost and snow people here in my area.

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RE: Perma Roof

Postby Melitta » Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:12 am

We still haven't heard from the Perma Roof people. I think we are going to go with doing the roof ourselves. If I purchase the whole mobile home repair book, that has the information for the metal roof, correct? Or do I need to purchase just the metal roof booklet? I would like the whole book, but for the moment, I need to roof information the most.
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RE: Perma Roof

Postby Melitta » Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:04 am

We have ordered Mark's book, hopefully it will be here next week. I have one question. We have been looking at our local stores for the metal roofing. I am not seeing any type of metal roofing that looks like the stuff in the photo gallery. Can anyone tell me what we are suppose to be looking for? Is it suppose to be 5 V Crimp in 29 gauge?
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RE: Perma Roof

Postby JD » Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:25 am

Hi Melitta,

Generally the home stores will carry the standard "S" curved corrugated steel. You can get a much better product from companies that supply metal to steel building and pole barn contractors. These companies are readily available everywhere, but you may want to get a quote from online suppliers that are in your area.

The gauge, rib pattern and type/quality of paint has a lot to do with the durability of your finished project.

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