What to use to prep floors for vinyl squares?

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I have removed ALL of the stinky carpet from our home :D YEAH!!!!... And who ever put in the carpet strips next to the wall used DECK NAILS... totally overkill to keep carpet down :lol: anyway... Due to cost issues I will be installing 18 inch square vinyl on the plywood floor that was under the carpet... I have 1714 square feet of floor to prep :shock: so ..... what do yall suggest to (fill) even out the "knot holes" in the plywood and to fill the nail holes and such... on a MUCH smaller scale I used wood putty and then sanded it down. Could I use that floor leveler stuff (powder form mixed with water to form a paste) and just not pore it all over the floor??? I am going to use tile glue to hold this vinyl to the floor... I know I know I'm not supposed too BUT I have done it before and it worked like a charm... I mean it would take a backhoe to get that vinyl off of the floors :lol: Thanks in advance for the good answers I know I will get!!
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I know it would be an extra cost be we have always put 4 x8 sheets of 1/4 luan running the opposite way the plywood floor runs now--in my area it runs $9 a sheet but we have done this many times and get wonderful results--please post a photo when done as I have been thinking of using the lg vinyl tiles in our next project--we have replaced all the carpet in our home and our allergies and illness factor dropped big time and we have done the same in all our rentals--when we have a turn over it is much easier for the renters to keep a vinyl floors clean or my cleaning crew to make the clean vs carpet-usually a total replacement,especailly if they have pets
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Whether you use an underlayment or install the tile direct to the plywood, I would float the entire floor with Ardex FeatherFinish. I used to have to buy it from a flooring supplier to get that product, but I got it the last time at Lowe's. It is just a flooring compound leveler. The PolyBlend (I think that's the name) available at most home stores will work too. The FeatherFinish seems to hold up a lot better where it gets applied or sanded thin. The product really needs to be applied with a trowel. I trowel it so hopefully there is no sanding required. Thin trowel lines sticking up and little bumps are not a problem. They can be scraped/cut off with a good putty knife. Generally, that is the only tool I need to touch up the floor compound when it's ready. It is ready in about 30 minutes. I don't allow it to set up totally hard, which makes it much easier to touch up. When I see low spots or uneven edges of subfloor, then I will need to use more compound to level the area out. I do not use self stick tile but if I did, I would be sure to leave at least a thin film over the entire plywood floor. I am sure they would stick better to floor compound than plywood.

There are self leveling floor prep products, but while the product does not need to be floated, I have found that it takes a very experienced eye to get the mix and volume of the pour right. It is easy to end up with unlevel sections near walls and at the cold joints.

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THANK YOU... After some research (http://www.ardex.com/cms%5CAssets%5CPro ... h-us-e.pdf) I will try the Ardex FeatherFinish... I will post pics of the floor prior to work and then as it progresses... I personally LOVE the 18" vinyl self stick tiles (but I also trowel on a good quality tile glue to prevent the tiles from releasing from the floor). I will call Lowes today about the FeatherFinish BUT I have requested a 10% discount coupon so I will wait till it arrives to buy the 1714 sq feet of tiles...
The cost is 99 cents a square foot for the 18inch tiles and I know from experience they last like the dickens... we have one 137 pound dog, two cats and a tiny dog, never a scratch or anything... We lived on a farm so work boots, (usually covered in muck) walked on it all of the time... We even had a goat (dont ask) get loose and he ran into the livingroom so I can say those tiles are totally goat hoof proof. Thanks again for your help as I had NEVER heard of Ardex FeatherFinish.
Jan
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